Friday, August 15, 2008

Acting White: The Browning of America

I have no innate desire to see whites remain the majority in America. To do so would seem to put that group’s interests ahead of non-whites, and there is already too much of this in our history. But I am still left to ponder the implications of the recently projected Latino takeover, by the year 2042. Latinos may not become the majority, but along with blacks, they will dominate this country as minorities, as they significantly influence it today.

So what will this mean? Succinctly, we should expect the unsolved problems of these two groups to dominate. If we accept that a country’s economic well-being trails its development and use of technology, the downward pressure on the current US standard of living is huge and increasing. The current technology achievement index (TAI) of the US is .73 (on a scale of 0-1), second only to Finland. The index of USA2042 will be quite lower, considering that the TAI’s of Mexico and origins further south are .39, at their top.

Why will the technology indices, circa. 2042, be lower, you ask? Because we are already failing to bring the current Latino and black communities up to the education and skill standards that are reflected in our current, albeit sliding, achievement index. This failure coupled with the growth of these groups, relative to whites, is not good economic news for anyone’s future. In fact, historic Latinos and blacks are the first-line and hardest hit casualties of increasing our low-skilled labor capacity minus manufacturing demand. And be reminded that service demand does not grow an economy, but rather is consumption.

The only groups to benefit will be the new comers, fleeing developing country poverty. They will undoubtedly live better, as their presence feeds off the standard of living of our past. In contrast, I believe this country should welcome and foster all groups that will add to our betterment, but until we can constructively mentor our current citizens, beginning with blacks and legal immigrants, we need to grow our exports in people who enter and stay illegally and punish those who encourage them.

James C. Collier


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Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira, aka Ochyming said...

I am very suspicious of that study.
And what stands for latino = it means European [cultural tradition] doesn't it?
Funny how it excludes the rest-ant ethnics.

we need to grow our exports in people who enter and stay illegally and punish those who encourage them.

Funny [how USA was built?] ?!

Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira, aka Ochyming said...

Please [Of course if you are unfamiliar] check this Blog - Wilson J. Moses’ Blog and this particular entry - Not a Democracy, but a Republic :

... The letters of John Adams to Thomas Jefferson assert that the recognition of an inequality of talents is necessary to a rational theory of government. Jefferson conceded that there was an aristocracy of “the wise, the good, and the just” and that government must be in the hands of this natural aristocracy, in order to preserve “life, liberty, property, and peace.” The following sentences from Federalist 10, among the most insightful ever written by Madison, are neither egalitarian nor democratic:

“The diversity in the faculties of men, from which the rights of property originate, is not less an insuperable obstacle to a uniformity of interests. The protection of these faculties is the first object of government. From the protection of different and unequal faculties of acquiring property, the possession of different degrees and kinds of property immediately results; and from the influence of these on the sentiments and views of the respective proprietors, ensues a division of the society into different interests and parties.”

More about him

Anonymous said...

2042 isn't a threat to the White Majority because it's not like Black and Latinos will join together. Also if the education of the two groups are low then they won't qualify for the higher paying jobs or leadership positions. By having all these low wage workers the USA can rebuild a sweat shop mentality and crank out low end products. Its all a great master plan to have people here producing things instead of importing from overseas.

So 2042 will just be a change in management technique. It's time to manage the dumbassess!

Anonymous said...


There is zero chance that manufacturing will ever return to the US. Your scenario would be a great thing to happen, but it won't.

What you are missing here Jim, is that the Latino culture is aspirational, with super strong family focus. The second generation is rapidly assimilating and contributing, with a strong focus on education.

As you have pointed out previously, popular black culture isn't.

James C. Collier said...

Steve: If you are correct about Latino assimilation, I would agree. I guess Latinos in TX don't suffer oppositional culture the way they do in CA, gangs and all. And when you throw in a higher level of repatriated service economy dollars, the picture gets worse.

Anonymous said...

I've been in the IT sector for 11 years and it is shifting. Presently, I see a very mixed landscape. About half of our engineering staff is of Indian or East Asian descent. The rest is white with a smattering of blacks mixed in. Our QA, Project Management and other departments all have a high level of blacks. There are a number of Asians and random other races around too.

But, oddly there is literally only one hispanic engineer. I find that odd.

To be fair, the upper management is fairly solidly white, for now, but as people prove their worth they are moving up.

I think by 2042 it will be an entirely different landscape.

Joe Friday said...

Home schooling is on the rise. The computer and the libraries have access to information never before available to the average Joe. Much of it free or close to it.

I say if your not getting educated or your children are not, it's not because the opportunity does not exist.

Use the resources available to you and teach others to do the same.

Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira, aka Ochyming said...

@james c. collier

Cultural assimilation: the process whereby a minority group gradually adopts the customs and attitudes of the prevailing culture.
That is from OS X.5 dictionary.

I am confused by yr use of that word. Shouldn't it be Sublimation?
Better education is A right of every human being.

And what you mean by don't suffer oppositional culture?
Isn't Gang culture a VERY USA thing!

About browning ...

Do you know that young descendant of Japanese and Chinese in Brazil are adopting plastic surgery to get rid of their characteristic "eyes".
SO to look like Europeans!

@tom jame

You are RIGHT but poverty as with every stigma can become accommodative.

Anonymous said...


I read BrandWeek and Ad Age when I am sitting around with nothing else to do. Each week I read about new focus on upscale Hispanics for selling cars, clothes, and consumer goods. The upscale Hispanic is a an exploding demographic, and advertisers are pouring money into it.

To your point though, yes, life is different for Hispanics in Texas, given that San Antonio is one of the largest cities in the country, and is way more Hispanic than white. In fact, whites are already a minority in Texas, I believe.

I am certain that both family and education are far more an aspirational part of the Hispanic culture than they are in Black culture, that is a fact, California gangs notwithstanding...

uglyblackjohn said...

Big Steve- Do you mean that Blacks don't aspire or that they are already there? I'm not really sure what we mean when we state "Black Culture". Is it one (thing) with many sub-(things) or is it just one (thing) as a whole?

James C. Collier said...

Big Steve: Check out for interesting dope on high school graduation rates and race.

Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira, aka Ochyming said...
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Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira, aka Ochyming said...

Those people you call Hispanics/Latinos, they ARE Europeans [look at Cameron Diaz, and that label excludes Native Americans, wonder WHERE "Blacks" Argentines WENT?], I see them in SHORT time occupying the same position Italians occupies today in the USA [they ARE not afraid of their origins], remember how Italians were stigmatized/ostracized?

And w/ the emerging economies from Eastern Europe and Asia, the well educated from those countries HAVE more in common w/ those USA citizens you call White, they share the same CULTURE [how many Asians go annually to Europe to study local culture? Those will be the leaders of tomorrow in Asia.], because those who call themselves Black lives in this cultural ghetto called Black culture only ignoring the rest of the world.

So, NO. There will be NO browning of USA!
Hell NO!

Anonymous said...

Robots will take over. Life extension is going to be a fact. Trans humans. Man/Machine inter phase. Synthetic life. All of these things will be happening in the next 30 years; most the researchers are white males. Just a fact.

Anonymous said...

This is one damn interesting string of comments (except for anonymous!) Thank you all for this discussion. I don't have much to add - you guys know the US much better than me. Just one thing. Gang culture isn't a USA thing or a black thing. Gang culture is very similar in Europe (especially Eastern Europe), Russia and the UK. And, of course, my homeland - South Africa. Colour doesn't play a role in these areas. Poverty, education etc do.

Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira, aka Ochyming said...

@angry african

I said Gang is A very American thing, did you saw Gangs of New York?

Where you see Gangs?
Gangs results only from melting-pots that refuses sublimation.

I think there is no differentiation between gangs and militia.

I wrote that JUST to accentuate the WRONG use of the word assimilation [used by the author], that is kinda Fascist/Colonialist.


Maybe you ARE right!
We are not that different from robots, we call them intelligence, because WE want them to be like US, but THEY are not intelligent!

WE like them ARE programmed to behave in a predetermined way by our surroundings!
When we talk about intelligence we forgot that there is this THING in US that FILTERS anything!
That is our MORAL architecture.

Read any Fyodor Dostoevsky novel, you will be hard pressed to think IS there anyone who knows the human nature MORE [therefore someone more intelligent]?, wait untill you read any of his social comments about Jews.
Henry Ford or Walt Disney can be put in the same basket [they were visionaries because they were HARD driven, competitive people not because they were MORE intelligent]!

NASA used technology from the 3rd Reich!
Wasn't these 3rd Reich's scientists/politics intelligent m**f**?
I do not think so!

Intelligent people would have figured right away how stupid their plan was!

We are becoming more like Robots, automates!
Guess robots will become more Human.

Anonymous said...

Angry African: refute my points.

List the names of black Nobel Prize winners in the hard sciences.
I will be waiting for your quick answers.

Economic Aspects
Dramatic changes in the rate of economic growth have occurred in the past because of some technological advancement. Based on population growth, the economy doubled every 250 million years from the appearance of a human brain until the Neolithic Revolution. This new agricultural economy began to double every 900 years, a remarkable increase. In the current era, beginning with the Industrial Revolution, the world’s economic output doubles every fifteen years, sixty times faster than in the agricultural era. If the rise of superhuman intelligences causes a similar revolution, one would expect the economy to double at least quarterly and possibly on a weekly basis.

Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira, aka Ochyming said...


Define super human intelligence.

... And that is the MOST ignorant citation I ever read!
Do NOT forget WHAT fed the Industrial revolution!

It was SLAVERY [mainly]!

But I wonder WHY countries like Portugal and Spain that HAD as any other country where to STEAL wealth are NOT today one of the most RICH countries?

Yes, you SEE no "black" Nobel Prize winners, If you know history beyond the lies of yr history books you'll know the answer!

Anonymous said...

Och whatever dude.

You are too funny. Give me some names. It can't be that hard. If there were no blacks in the US no one left would miss you.

Anonymous said...

JCC, do you still feel the same way now? Is it really the fault of native-born American citizens that these students don't achieve in the academic hierarchy? Is it good for American blacks, who are left behind not only by American whites but also by immigrant Hispanic and especially Asian populations, that we continue to flood our industries with these laborers?

As an American nationalist, I care as much about the opportunities of working-class blacks as I do about working-class whites. But I see are American blue-collar wages being undermined by Mexican/Hispanic unskilled labor and white-collar wages being undermined by Asian semi-educated labor. Can we at least agree that the prosperity of America should benefit Americans (black and white) rather than Johnny-come-latelys who are hostile to the native white and (from what I've gathered) especially and vengefully, the native black population?