tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post4029483771947661154..comments2023-10-26T02:13:03.378-07:00Comments on Acting White Acting Black: Looking At Disparities Through The Lens of RaceJames C. Collierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06268279457459050826noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-5275683953080938072010-06-27T13:03:21.764-07:002010-06-27T13:03:21.764-07:00I expected better from you. The scientific results...I expected better from you. The scientific results are unpleasant to hear, but that doesn't make them untrue.<br /><br />Race is genetic, and it has nothing to do with skin colour. Some races are stronger, smarter or shier than other races, because of genetics. Those different genes were favoured in different places because genes evolve by natural selection to optimise survival (and passing on) of those genes based on local conditions. Cold winters require more intelligence and planning and also coincidentally require whiter skin.<br /><br />Transracial adoption studies, inbreeding depression studies, and sibling studies clearly show a large genetic difference in intelligence, with Ashkenazi Jews being much smarter than everyone else, East Asians (Korean, Japanese, and Chinese) being significantly but not a lot smarter than white people, and white people being a lot smarter than black Africans. The genetic studies show exactly what you would expect based on the achievements of those races.<br /><br />There's enough variance that the smartest African Americans can outsmart the average Ashkenazi Jews, but that's the exception rather than the norm. <br /><br />I suspect you are taking average genetic race differences personally, which you shouldn't do. You are not average, and once you do an IQ test yourself, the average IQ of your race is irrelevant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-63210329747812603432010-05-31T16:16:48.717-07:002010-05-31T16:16:48.717-07:00the so-called race-realist only shows how one depe...the so-called race-realist only shows how one depends on being "in the white club" to foster a sense of self-esteem and give meaning to their existence...it's funny, all that "white intellectual brillance" can't stop that oil leak fouling our ocean waters...ronnie brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07986056708679132837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-40232539738456080842010-05-27T15:12:35.787-07:002010-05-27T15:12:35.787-07:00"the point of most race-realist, along with y..."the point of most race-realist, along with your Stormfront brethren, is not just difference, but rather genotype to phenotype influence we see today. They badly want to believe that monolithic 'Whites' (via skin-color) were blessed with some genetic advantage only available in Eurasia."<br /><br />If you say so. I've never seen anyone claim this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-38700601385672948822010-05-27T14:39:59.125-07:002010-05-27T14:39:59.125-07:00Anon 1:56, the point of most race-realist, along w...Anon 1:56, the point of most race-realist, along with your Stormfront brethren, is not just difference, but rather genotype to phenotype influence we see today. They badly want to believe that monolithic 'Whites' (via skin-color) were blessed with some genetic advantage only available in Eurasia. Perhaps you want to believe this as well, but have yet to find a defensible argument. You say, "Nobody actually judges race solely or even mostly by skin color,..." ???James C. Collierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06268279457459050826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-24495235896275253682010-05-27T13:56:17.253-07:002010-05-27T13:56:17.253-07:00"I neither ignore current measured intelligen..."I neither ignore current measured intelligence disparities, or subscribe to unproven influence of 'whiteness' - the intersecting crux of realist argument"<br /><br />I'm confused by this. I'm not up to date on my Stormfront, but I have no idea what you're talking about with respect to 'whiteness'. It doesn't matter whether white people evolved from Africans, dolphins, or Martians, the point is that the races are different today, at least according to the "realists" I'm aware of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-69272380567933016532010-05-27T08:46:19.359-07:002010-05-27T08:46:19.359-07:00Anon 1:28, it is far from semantics to place the i...Anon 1:28, it is far from semantics to place the influence for high-order intelligence distribution inside Africa, rather than Europe or Asia. I neither ignore current measured intelligence disparities, or subscribe to unproven influence of 'whiteness' - the intersecting crux of realist argument. My horse in the race is merely objective explanation. Africa has labored under 50,000 years of brain-drain and the drivers are non-trivial, malaria, hostile geography, limited resources. Challenge the science of my post, brains and skin evolution, if you might, and look up the definition semantics while you are at it.James C. Collierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06268279457459050826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-51886346555767820292010-05-27T01:28:12.868-07:002010-05-27T01:28:12.868-07:00"However, I reject the common HBD/realist ass..."However, I reject the common HBD/realist assertion that larger brains reflect the influence of 'white or Asian genes'. It makes sense that earliest larger-brained Africans would have been more capable explorers in both/all evolutionary scenarios."<br /><br />Even assuming this is true, those "larger-brained Africans" are now called whites and asians. I've seen you play this semantic game before, and I guess I sort of understand. If it makes you feel better to think that whites and Asians are just "the smartest Africans", it doesn't bother me.<br /><br />By the way, you should know better than to conflate race and "skin color". Obama's skin is lighter than mine, and yet it's obvious to everyone that he has recent "black" ancestry and I do not. Nobody actually judges race solely or even mostly by skin color, that's just a useful meme thrown around by anti-intellectuals who want to pretend that race doesn't exist. I expect better from you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-78013042753048983532010-05-26T22:11:40.473-07:002010-05-26T22:11:40.473-07:00Mr. Collier,
For someone who has experienced the ...Mr. Collier,<br /><br />For someone who has experienced the "bad ole days" why are you surprised that some see others as inferior? Whatever metric being used is irrelevant, have you not seen this before?<br /><br />What ever "facts" you cite to make your point, they'll cite "facts" to back up their point. This is pointless, group stratification (no matter how groups are defined) is unavoidable since people are allowed to make their own choices. Observing this stratification and coming up with a construct to explain it is a worthwhile exercise?<br /><br />So what construct would a "race realist" use?? I wonder what? Shocking they would use metrics that just happen to "explain" why the world looks like it does (disproportionate amount of Asians in college and disproportionate amount of blacks in prison, for US example). And this is science. There is nothing new here, it is the same theme that has been in play for last 3000+ years to justify what ever one group wants to do with or to another.<br /><br />RAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-90648442880510572352010-05-25T08:39:06.560-07:002010-05-25T08:39:06.560-07:00Thanks Dennis. In comment, I take no issue with re...Thanks Dennis. In comment, I take no issue with research that seeks correlates to intelligence, brain size being a good candidate. However, I reject the common HBD/realist assertion that larger brains reflect the influence of 'white or Asian genes'. It makes sense that earliest larger-brained Africans would have been more capable explorers in both/all evolutionary scenarios.James C. Collierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06268279457459050826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-69763118221773948252010-05-25T05:08:57.852-07:002010-05-25T05:08:57.852-07:00Jim, there's plenty of physiological evidence,...Jim, there's plenty of physiological evidence, such as brain size, though admittedly our understanding of brain architecture and how it affects intelligence is young. Take a look at some of the papers, here, for example.<br /><br />http://www.ssc.uwo.ca/psychology/faculty/rushton_pubs.htmDennis Manganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16934802482968611507noreply@blogger.com