tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post3768956623257498472..comments2023-10-26T02:13:03.378-07:00Comments on Acting White Acting Black: The Great Slavery Debate – An IntroductionJames C. Collierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06268279457459050826noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-29934214419381017392010-10-16T18:58:48.564-07:002010-10-16T18:58:48.564-07:00Although slavery existed on this land for hundreds...Although slavery existed on this land for hundreds of years,'De facto' slavery only lasted 70+ years after the constitution was ratified, and only in the south. What happened was, after slavery with the KKK taking power in the south and the 70+ jimcrow period makes it seem longer. Our ancestors would be shocked if they were alive and we are STILL bringing up slavery as a grievance like it was just yesterday; I think many of our modern problems came with the Sex and Drug revolution of the early 70sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-41375701781025321342010-09-09T08:55:32.777-07:002010-09-09T08:55:32.777-07:00Anon 8:45, perhaps you are correct, but to the con...Anon 8:45, perhaps you are correct, but to the contrary, I find the young man thoughtful and very worthy of new seeds of thought. Remember - we are all lost until we find our way, heh, heh!James C. Collierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06268279457459050826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-58007711158647576782010-09-09T08:47:55.797-07:002010-09-09T08:47:55.797-07:00atitdude, I'll suggest that the reference of s...atitdude, I'll suggest that the reference of some rap lyrics to 'blacks as slaves' is hyperbole, with the goal emphasizing an analogous 'evilness' of today's governing system, against an earlier one that imposed actual slavery. IMO is an egregious misuse of logic that has young people thinking of themselves as powerless victims, rather than capable participants.James C. Collierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06268279457459050826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-49440596290500877212010-09-09T08:45:19.054-07:002010-09-09T08:45:19.054-07:00Your daughter's boyfriend sounds like he has a...Your daughter's boyfriend sounds like he has a bright future in the grievance industry. Why are you trying to take that away from him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-33730613573149609312010-09-09T08:23:52.867-07:002010-09-09T08:23:52.867-07:00looking forward to reading and learning, James.
C...looking forward to reading and learning, James.<br /><br />Can you touch on the notion I've found repeated in hip-hop that "Blacks are still slaves"?atldudenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-23070232363733824282010-09-08T19:30:15.059-07:002010-09-08T19:30:15.059-07:00Saying that US slavery was "better" than...Saying that US slavery was "better" than slavery elsewhere is something that need only be pointed out to hard-core ideologues.<br /><br />In the sense that US slaves were allowed to survive, form families and pass on a legacy this is true.<br /><br />But what exactly is your point?<br /><br />The answer to Eternal White Guilt (which I don't feel and which I would reject even if I did) isn't, "gee, nothing happened here, let's move along."Sophianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-10449712323806699702010-09-08T15:22:58.630-07:002010-09-08T15:22:58.630-07:00Mind you, move past does not mean ‘get over it’, i...<i>Mind you, move past does not mean ‘get over it’, in the snide way some people admonish.</i><br /><br />I think Black People will "get over slavery" when Southern Whites get over Confederacy=Lost Cause mythology. And they stop romanticizing the antebellum & Confederate time periods.wickedwisdomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05829558117461458854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-30876105077978777682010-09-08T14:50:24.225-07:002010-09-08T14:50:24.225-07:00Dennis, my first installment is about how the rela...Dennis, my first installment is about how the relative modifier 'better' morphs into a positive adjective - and then the fight breaks out, or at least reading stops.James C. Collierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06268279457459050826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-31405444990229996362010-09-08T06:19:13.591-07:002010-09-08T06:19:13.591-07:00I'll get ahead of your coming discussion and s...I'll get ahead of your coming discussion and say that American slavery was not worse and was in many cases "better" than slavery elsewhere in place and time. Historically, many slaves were captives in war, the men being worked to death in mines or in other grueling work, the women becoming household slaves/prostitutes. (Even being worked to death was an improvement on being slaughtered as a war captive.) Colonial America and the U.S. were among the few places - perhaps the only places - where slaves increased in number through births to slaves, indicating a certain degree of well-being. Elsewhere, slaves required continual replenishing from outside, since the slaves were being killed off through terrible living conditions.Dennis Manganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16934802482968611507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-15595758787795068892010-09-07T20:02:18.151-07:002010-09-07T20:02:18.151-07:00The first Africans who were transported here were ...The first Africans who were transported here were indentured servants - no?<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_%28American_Colonial%29<br /><br />Also, I think that it's customary for young people to be very passionate. Later when they read things they calm down. I didn't know about indentured servitude until I was past 40.Sophianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25734096.post-32322717527469182922010-09-07T14:01:44.281-07:002010-09-07T14:01:44.281-07:00I look forward to the coming weeks/months.I look forward to the coming weeks/months.~~Silkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122262422346224632noreply@blogger.com